While running Painter 3.0, press 'k' to start the 'Color Talk (TM)' dialog. Since Color Talk saves into PAINTER.SET, I can not just give you the program. You will have to duplicate it. Use your pointer to drag elements off the lists on the dialog into place in the edit line. You can use the pointer to drag stuff around in the edit. You can use delete to remove the currently selected element in the edit. Duplicate the following text in the edit: red=1-sin(x);blue=sin(y);green=cos(y) Then press RUN. Bear in mind that in Painter 3.0, 'Color Talk' is not a 'real', supported feature. It is still in the testing stage. So SAVE EARLY, SAVE OFTEN! I haven't had any trouble with it, but... ------------------------ Well, here we are at Painter 5.0 and Color Talk is still not a real feature. The shortcut key is now 'N' to bring up the Color Talk dialog.